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It's a tragedy the section on comedy is lost (see what I did there?). I've always thought comedy was cathartic too. I wonder why he didn't (comedy's had a reputation since), and what he thought comedy contributed.

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Plato: Most esteemed pupil Aristotle, I fear you confuse yourself with talk of “things as they ought to be. “ For the eternal world of the Forms is timeless and perfect: it has no future and contains no LACK, to entail an “ought to be.” Beware that you tarry too long analyzing instances in the world of appearances and illusion. Perhaps it’s this young student you now tutor – Alexander? – with all his talk of conquest and empire . . . .

Arisotle: Yo, Prof, I hear what your sayin’. But dig it – if the world of the senses is just some, you know, senseless realm of misleading illusion, then why is it, you know, like. HERE? I mean, is this all just some kind of, what do you call it, Matrix? And if it is – wow – then who created it? Some kinda, like, evil dude, I’d have to say. I know you think you’re red-pilling it – RESPECT – but let me try this on ya – see if it fits. Put aside for a sec the Form of “the Good.” I know you think we can deduce that. It’s an idea. But what about an apple, an ordinary apple. Sure, there’s, like, some (quotation marks) PERFECT (quotation marks) idea of an apple (heh – I’m just gammin’ ya) but can we deduce that without ever having seen an ACTUAL apple? Anybody ever do it? I’m asking for – no offense – an empirical example. And if not, if we come to understand the perfect idea of an apple through experience of actual, imperfect apples, then maybe poetry CAN lead us to some kind of truth? Whaddya think? Whaddya think?

Plato: That’s all we have time for this week, class. Remember, for next week, your dialogues are due – and don't forget to read Thales on water, pages 0-0.

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